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Re: James Morgan

Postby mbenecke » Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:34 pm

Huger got a raise and promptly went and won 21 games to have the first back to back 20+ win seasons at BG since the 1940s. Let's not overreact as though he isn't worth keeping around.
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Re: James Morgan

Postby guest44 » Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:43 pm

He would have done the exact same thing at the previous wage. He was plenty well compensated before. If a better job came along he would leave either way.
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Re: James Morgan

Postby zete » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:36 am

guest44 wrote:Of course it did. BGSU got completely fleeced by Jinks, both Doege brothers. then again by a Doege late last year. The bigger problem was it took 2.5 years to figure it out. Meanwhile, the guy who hired him figured it out 4 months later and left. The hire was so bad it caused Chris Kingston to stop tweeting.

You are spot on with your comments. We had the tail wagging the dog for a period of time.....lots of promises made, lots of promises kept at the expense of those outside the in-crowd. In the end, gasoline dumped and ignited. Through it all Im glad J Morgan believed in himself and has come out smelling like the proverbial rose while taking the high road.

from Blade - Morgan originally committed to Bowling Green under former coach Dino Babers, and ascended to a starter in 2016, the first season for former coach Mike Jinks. Morgan started 14 games at Bowling Green across the next two seasons, but lost the role in 2017 to Jarret Doege, then a true freshman.
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Re: James Morgan

Postby guest44 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:49 am

Let’s also not forget that the OC Morgan got is now the OC at Angelo State. Jinks & brother Doege just pulled off a 78th nationally ranked recruiting class at USC.

When Bob tells you about his lack of resources the next few weeks, and maybe even cuts to years of BGSU tradition, just remember all the millions wasted on a hire of a group so obviously unqualified that a 12 year old could see it. 200K to Mike Jinks late in 2019. Negligence.
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Re: James Morgan

Postby Schadenfreude » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:08 am

guest44 wrote:When Bob tells you about his lack of resources the next few weeks, and maybe even cuts to years of BGSU tradition, just remember all the millions wasted on a hire of a group so obviously unqualified that a 12 year old could see it. 200K to Mike Jinks late in 2019. Negligence.


Bob Moosbrugger is cleaning up a mess. My understanding is that BGSU owed Jinks a whole lot more money than that. Is it your position that BGSU should have paid out Jinks' entire contract?
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Re: James Morgan

Postby falconfan1 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:16 am

Bob Moosbrugger has done an outstanding job in multiple areas during his almost four year tenure. Starting with a mid year dismissal of Coach Jinks. Not a common occurrence here but needed. You want Coach Huger as the Men's Basketball Coach at BG. He does things the right way and I will leave it at that. I think a couple of recent hires will do well over their time at BG. No AD is perfect; no one in any job is perfect. Certainly including me.

Meanwhile, no one in any industry saw this COVID19 at this level. No one. He will steer the BG Athletics ship as best as possible in concert with our entire University. He is the right person as folks like and respect him. He works. BG guy too which matters now.

BGSU is better positioned than many of our brethren as a University today. That is good. And the reasons for that start with excellent leadership at the top of the University in multiple positions.

These are tough times. No question. There are many unknowns or "unknowables". There will be adjustments. There will be changes. But our leadership is working- sometimes in concert with others too- to emerge in a strong position over time.

So yes I will listen to Bob and other University leaders when they ask me for some advice, input or help. Because Bowling Green has impacted a lot of lives in our family. And it was positive. Not perfect. But very positive.

And on this topic James Morgan loves BGSU. He won't forget us. Nor we him.

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Re: James Morgan

Postby guest44 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:29 am

No one in any industry saw Covid-19. Everyone in every industry including children, saw Mike Jinks was not qualified for the job. I won’t go back and revisit the coaches hired whose actions off the field court, or pool, embarrassed BGSU. Those are all well documented. I’m not going to convince people who are paid by BGSU how to think. I also won’t feel sorry for a department who hired Mike Jinks, or the others.
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Re: James Morgan

Postby falconfan1 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:57 am

Bob Moosbrugger nor the current President had anything to do with hiring Coach Jinks. Zero part. None. The only argument- at our level of school- is whether he could have been released after 2017. There is no other argument. And given the University's situation then, it would have been a very difficult move. So don't blame that hire on anyone but one person. Chris Kingston.

Now we move forward. And we will.

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Re: James Morgan

Postby 2006Grad » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:21 am

It’s great that James got drafted, but he was not playing well at BG. He continued to miss open receives especially on throws over 20 yards. Doege was a great prospect as a true freshmen and the majority of this board was excited to see him grow over the next few years. Yes, the coaching and injuries didn’t help his growth, but it’s not like him replacing Morgan was a shocking development that was poo pood on here.
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Re: James Morgan

Postby Flipper » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:53 am

Why are we still debating Mike Jinks...hes gone. The AD who hired him is gone. It cost us less to be rid of him than anticipated. Why continue?
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Re: James Morgan

Postby Schadenfreude » Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:11 pm

2006Grad wrote:It’s great that James got drafted, but he was not playing well at BG. He continued to miss open receives especially on throws over 20 yards. Doege was a great prospect as a true freshmen and the majority of this board was excited to see him grow over the next few years. Yes, the coaching and injuries didn’t help his growth, but it’s not like him replacing Morgan was a shocking development that was poo pood on here.


I was at that Northwestern game where Morgan got benched. It is true that he was not playing well and that he was missing receivers. Jarrett Doege came in and started hitting receivers. Putting Doege in was the right game day decision. I said it at the time. He was playing better football than Morgan.

But what we can also see, in retrospect, is that Mike Jinks had a future NFL draft pick on his roster in James Morgan and he had no idea how to coach that talent.

At Florida International, Butch Davis and his staff knew what they were doing. They made the most of James Morgan's potential. Now he's with the New York Jets.

If Mike Jinks had known what he was doing, Morgan probably never gets benched in the first place.
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Re: James Morgan

Postby Roll Along! » Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:12 pm

Mike Jinks was a disaster of the highest order, but in this situation it's almost inconceivable to argue that playing Jarret Doege over James Morgan was the wrong decision.

The 2017 QB circus:

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Mich State 10/31, 145 Yds, 0 TD, 1 INT
South Dakota 20/49, 311 Yds, 2 TD, 1 INT and a LOSS

And then the Northwestern game, which was actually Morgan's best to date when he went 15/26 for 166 yards and 0 INT. But Doege replaces him and goes 12/18 for 90 yards. Doege gets the start the next week and goes 21/35 for 283 yards and a TD against MTSU.

Against Akron, Doege gets hurt after starting 7/10 for a measly 14 yards and 1 INT. Morgan comes in and goes 17/28 and we are back to Morgan for a few games because of Doege's injury. Morgan has the chance to reclaim his starting job but combines to go 27/66 against Miami and Ohio. Against NIU, he goes 7/12 for 71 yards with 1 TD and 2 INT before being pulled for some walk-on named Grant Loy.

None of his stats were GOOD. Doege returns the next week to go 14/18 in a blowout win over Kent and then 28/43 for 294 yards and 3 TD in a loss to Buffalo. Both of those games were better than any Morgan had. He then goes 17/30 for 270 yards, 4 TD against Toledo and closes the year at 21/34 for 256 yards, 2 TD vs. EMU.

Was Morgan mismanaged? Probably so. But Doege was much more effective in 2017.
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Re: James Morgan

Postby MarkL » Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:31 pm

Roll Along! wrote:Was Morgan mismanaged? Probably so. But Doege was much more effective in 2017.

That's the thing right there. Morgan magically went from totally ineffective to NFL worthy by changing coaches. I would have liked to have seen Morgan play under Babers.
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Re: James Morgan

Postby Flipper » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:29 pm

This sounds like a "I burned the steak, but look...here's some chicken" kind of an argument. Playing Doege over Morgan might have been the right call at the time...but that just points up how poorly Morgan was handled
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Re: James Morgan

Postby zete » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:04 am

Flipper wrote:This sounds like a "I burned the steak, but look...here's some chicken" kind of an argument. Playing Doege over Morgan might have been the right call at the time...but that just points up how poorly Morgan was handled


............and not just Morgan: from Blade -- The Bowling Green State University football team has fallen on hard times since winning the Mid-American Conference in 2015, having gone 12-36 in the past four years.

The downfall started at the administrative level, and the current administration and new coaching staff has spent the past 18 months trying to undo the damage and repair the program to a championship level once again.

Although Bowling Green's roster construction slacked even before former director of athletics Chris Kingston hired Texas Tech assistant Mike Jinks in late 2015, the Falcons were not short on NFL talent during the 2016 and 2017 seasons.

During those two seasons, Bowling Green had future NFL players at quarterback, wide receiver, and left tackle, another receiver who played in the XFL, and many other solid to very good college players — yet won six games and allowed more than 900 total points in 24 across those two seasons.

Attrition has decimated BG in recent years, but many players from the era still went on to bigger and better things.

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Former coach Dino Babers' recruiting classes didn't hold up over the long term — more than half of his signees did not finish their eligibility at BG and only two of his offensive line recruits ever started a game at BG — but there is no denying his ability to spot skill players.

Morgan, a quarterback from Wisconsin, was a stop-the-presses recruit who agreed to come to Bowling Green, and to this day, Morgan remains the highest-rated 247Sports recruit to ever sign with BG.

The problem was that Morgan's best football happened only after he left. By the time he ascended to the starting role, Babers had left for Syracuse, and his first year starting brought a new offense and a coaching staff on which no one had ever been an FBS coordinator.

In two years, Morgan completed 51.9 percent of his passes with 25 touchdowns compared to 22 interceptions, and lost the starting role to then-true freshman Jarret Doege in 2017.

Morgan blossomed after graduate transferring to Florida International, where he set the school record for touchdown passes in a season (26) and the record for career efficiency (143.4). He became a fourth-round pick of the New York Jets on Saturday.

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A Dave Clawson recruit, Hunter became one of the top offensive linemen in the MAC. He started every game at left guard during the Falcons' 2015 conference championship season before moving to tackle for his final two years.

Hunter was not selected in the 2018 NFL draft, but signed with the Kansas City Chiefs and has been there ever since. He was on the practice squad for the Super Bowl champions during the past season.

Scott Miller

The speedy wide receiver had only one scholarship offer at the FBS level, yet left Bowling Green as one of the most productive pass-catchers in school history.

Miller piled up more than 2,800 yards receiving and 23 touchdowns from 2016-18 and was named all-MAC three times.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers selected Miller in the sixth round of the 2019 NFL draft, and he quickly impressed during the Bucs' organized team activities and made the 53-man roster. He caught his first-ever NFL touchdown at Ford Field, the same place he won a MAC title as a freshman in 2015.

Teo Redding

Another Clawson recruit, Redding was second team All-MAC as a senior in 2017 and led the team in touchdown receptions with eight. He was not selected in the 2018 NFL Draft, but signed contracts with three teams and played on the practice squad with Green Bay and Washington.

He most recently appeared with the New York Guardians of the XFL, which suspended play after the outbreak of coronavirus.

Attrition

Stable, starting-caliber players like cornerback Marcus Milton, defensive end David Konowalski, and offensive lineman Jack Kramer all finished their careers at Bowling Green — but the program's biggest issue has been that those types of players have been few and far between.

Only four seniors who had signed with BG out of high school remained with the program at the end of 2019, and 38 of 60 players signed in 2016 and 17 were gone by the end of 2019.

Former starters like Austin Valdez (Syracuse), Cam Jefferies (Cincinnati), and Doege (West Virginia) transferred to bigger programs, while many others simply washed out altogether.

The Falcons finished the 2019 season with fewer than 70 scholarship players, and second-year coach Scot Loeffler filled BG’s entire class of 2020 with only high-school players to help mend gaps long-term. After just 12 combined wins during the past four seasons, Bowling Green is in the midst of its worst-ever four-year stretch.
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