The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby mbenecke » Mon May 18, 2020 2:55 pm

guest44 wrote:Solid candidate? What has Loeffler proven? He isn't Clawson regardless of how badly they want the comparison. He had never been a head coach. The program he left fired the entire staff the next season, and he would have been gone too. If BG has such a small budget like Moose loves to use as his go to excuse for everything, then why are you handing out raises like that? Buyout for Huger? Huger's first three seasons were hot garbage. Not a single school has inquired about him even with the success, and it was a Justin Turner transfer away from being a bad contract. Wow, the BGSU standards are low. Say what you want about the baseball program, at least the won titles occasionally.


In defense of Loeffler, he beat Toledo in Year 1 and he has been recruiting his tail off to rebuild this thing. He took the job with knowing it was a 3+ year rebuild, and he's said/done everything right so far. I don't think we should be acting like that was a bad hire at this point.

The bottom line here is that baseball made (essentially) zero money for the department, and it was hard to have a competitive program in the midwest in February and March. All they did was travel and cost the department money. I root for the baseball team, and had friends that played on it - but they were among the least valuable programs to the university, and that's what it came to here. They were at the bottom of the totem pole, and SOME cuts had to be made, so that's what happened. I'm hopeful the program can return at some point in the near future, but I'm not at all surprised that it was the decision that was made - I think it was the only choice that really made sense.
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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby guest44 » Mon May 18, 2020 3:13 pm

If the evaluation of athletic programs is based on who made money for the athletics department, BGSU should get rid of athletics in the next 5 minutes, and refund roughly 13 million in student fees. The only people making money are the administrators and coaches. Way way too much money. The people losing are every student who comes to BGSU many of which don't care about athletics at all. As for Loeffler, time will tell. He is winning recruiting Twitter and we know that has a ton of value to this athletic department. He got boat raced by 4 MAC East programs who he has his work cut out getting past. Twitter contract extension coming?
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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby drumstix2388 » Mon May 18, 2020 3:22 pm

guest44 wrote:Solid candidate? What has Loeffler proven? He isn't Clawson regardless of how badly they want the comparison. He had never been a head coach. The program he left fired the entire staff the next season, and he would have been gone too. If BG has such a small budget like Moose loves to use as his go to excuse for everything, then why are you handing out raises like that? Buyout for Huger? Huger's first three seasons were hot garbage. Not a single school has inquired about him even with the success, and it was a Justin Turner transfer away from being a bad contract. Wow, the BGSU standards are low. Say what you want about the baseball program, at least the won titles occasionally.


I think you're romanticizing the past with baseball. They probably have fewer conference titles overall than just about any sport, they just had a recent NCAA appearance so it makes it seem different. Their last five seasons have been pretty awful.

And even Dave Clawson thinks Loeffler is the next Clawson because of the way he is approaching the program, so the comparison is not out of nowhere. If you don't see how things are trending in the right direction under him, and if you don't understand why an extension was a calculated move for Huger (who very much has had schools inquire about him, even if it hasn't advanced), then I question if you really understand anything about how athletic programs are run.
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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby guest44 » Mon May 18, 2020 3:36 pm

Actually they have the most MAC Titles of any men's sport since 1990. A football coach says good things about another football coach. People on this board, Moose, and every member of the local media was claiming Mike Jinks was going to get this thing rolling. Name the schools who inquired about Huger? George Washington? Not a real candidate. That list included another former Miami assistant who wanted a contract extension at Louisiana Tech the same off season before year 5. Just admit Moose negotiated against himself or that Blade article. I know athletic departments are run on money they don't actually have.
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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby Schadenfreude » Mon May 18, 2020 5:26 pm

guest44 wrote:Moose, and every member of the local media was claiming Mike Jinks was going to get this thing rolling.


This is not true. Moose wasn't even here when Jinks was hired. Moose just had to grit his teeth and hope for the best -- along with the rest of us -- until it became beyond dispute to everyone but Mike Jinks that Mike Jinks was in over his head here. Moose pulled the trigger about as quickly as he could.
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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby guest44 » Mon May 18, 2020 5:37 pm

Moose was here for his first season. Moose was here for second season. Moose was here to fire Jinks, He did not hire Mike Jinks, but he said many of those things about the direction of the program while Jinks was coaching here.
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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby drumstix2388 » Mon May 18, 2020 5:46 pm

guest44 wrote:Moose was here for his first season. Moose was here for second season. Moose was here to fire Jinks, He did not hire Mike Jinks, but he said many of those things about the direction of the program while Jinks was coaching here.


So he did what every single AD in America would have done? What's he going to say? "Yikes, this guy has no idea what he's doing, but we don't have the money to get rid of him, so let's all hope for the best until we figure out what we can do financially."
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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby guest44 » Mon May 18, 2020 5:55 pm

I'm not sure what he is supposed to say in that situation, but yes it was obvious that he was terrible & Bowling Green Football was headed down the toilet. So obvious the previous AD walked. I know what you don't say 3 weeks prior to cutting a program.
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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby Schadenfreude » Mon May 18, 2020 8:04 pm

drumstix2388 wrote:
guest44 wrote:Moose was here for his first season. Moose was here for second season. Moose was here to fire Jinks, He did not hire Mike Jinks, but he said many of those things about the direction of the program while Jinks was coaching here.


So he did what every single AD in America would have done?


Exactly. Grin and bear it. Be as upbeat as possible until you are ready to make a change..
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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby guest44 » Mon May 18, 2020 8:28 pm

What Moose did was whine about the unflattering articles after Jinks squad led the NCAA in offseason arrests that summer. No grinning. Just downplaying it all summer long.
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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby FalconTurf » Tue May 19, 2020 6:25 pm

https://twitter.com/JordanStrack
https://twitter.com/i/status/1262836946059112449
Interesting interview with Gary Haas who is blunt about the department using Covid-19 as an excuse to do what was already in process.
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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby guest44 » Tue May 19, 2020 8:00 pm

Name another school or administration that has the school President show up to name the stadium after an alum and donor, only to never have a game played in the stadium again? Only BGSU. Only Moose and his crew of Kingston holdovers.

https://twitter.com/bgsu_baseball/statu ... 93888?s=21 this was October 2019.

Covid was not the excuse at Cincinnati as Moose explained in April. Moose, who also loves to offer opinions on other schools, said It was years in the making based on rumors from the BGSU soccer coach. Three weeks later BGSU Baseball was Covid, and the above was just a horse & pony show for likes & retweets.
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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby mbenecke » Wed May 20, 2020 10:39 am

https://twitter.com/JustinFeldkamp/stat ... 4886976512

"As the current @BGSUBaseball players clear out their lockers after the program was shut down, roughly 30 baseball alums came from all over the state to show support. They’re trying to raise money to revive the program. In one day they raised $200,000." -Justin Feldkamp

It's nice to see this support for the program. I only wish they had been donating before it came to this - Haas has been out on the road fundraising, and never saw this kind of commitment/support for the program until after it was cut. Feels like it's too little too late, sadly.

If it's ever revived, there needs to be consistent support and love put into that program.
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Re: The $1 million donation to the baseball program?

Postby guest44 » Wed May 20, 2020 11:05 am

Sounds like a good plan. Haas the CEO. Former players involved in fundraising. Moose and his crew no where to be found.
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